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ricstoc
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Posted on 15-04-2009 08:18
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Hi to all as this is my first post.
Im looking to build a new home (this is my third but my first alternate build) and have come to the conclusion of straw bale and/or superadobe.
I was thinking of how to use bale walls internally as they are so thick. I will be using post and beam but in steel (recycled) and I was thinking that I could just stitch some f52 mesh between the posts and (dont quite know how yet) slicing a bale to give me 2 * 225mm halves. I was then going to press them against the mesh and simply place some chicken mesh on the other side and stitch away. Any ideas?
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Mark
 
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Posted on 16-04-2009 08:03


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The bales won't hold together with one string when you cut them to 225mm but with mesh on each side of the wall framing you can use just loose (compacted) straw. Another alternative, without mesh, is to do light-straw clay which is basically a cob mix poured into formwork as infill between the structural framing. That would give you more thermal mass than the straw option, which is generally what you want internally. You could also look at Ortech Durra panels for easy non-loadbearing internal walls. www.ortech.com.au
 
ricstoc
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Posted on 16-04-2009 10:14
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Andrew Webb wrote:
The bales won't hold together with one string when you cut them to 225mm

Thanks for the reply Andrew. I was thinking of actually adding an extra two string ie total of 4 before its cut and use a guillotine type of blade to cut it (would of course have to try it). The f52 would be the major 'structural' mesh and the chicken type mesh would be the secondary mesh to hold it. Will check the panel.
Cheers
Mark
 
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Posted on 17-04-2009 06:39


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Maybe a band saw?
 
Lear1105
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Posted on 10-02-2010 00:49
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I am also looking for an alternative method for internal walls, and have looked at the Durra wall system but they are rather thick, is there any other system which people use for intenal walls ?

David
 
wedderboom
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Posted on 11-02-2010 23:35
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Another method for internal walls I have come across is what is known as a Kram wall. Devised by the strawbale builder Brian Hodge. It is basically a timber stud wall with netting tensioned across it. The cavity is then stuffed with straw and then rendered. From Brians book, the sound and thermal properties are very good. I briefly helped out some friends using this method and it is very time consuming but gives a very matched appearance to the rest of the house. Try www.peterandnatasha.net and you should find some photos of their internal walls done with the Kram method.
cheers, strawy.
Edited by wedderboom on 11-02-2010 23:40
 
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Luke on October 18 2009 06:42:29
Would the Durra panels (the pressed strawpanels) be an option? They both look nice and insulate at the same time.
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